buggy or insane?... you decide! (in General)


AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] March 1 2010 6:25 PM EST

So for a while now I've been perplexed because I'm often able to beat Ranger the first time I fight him, but almost never after that fight.

I believe that the dex penalty for a bow in melee (or something similar) is causing his dex to be lower for that first fight.
The only reason I'm doubting myself is that I've seen similar results with JS's team Priestess of the Moon... and he has a Melee weapon equipped.

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- March 1 2010 8:59 PM EST

Hmm, not sure but I've noticed I get random defensive wins against Zenai, which in my mind shouldn't be happening. :S

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] March 1 2010 9:38 PM EST

 Play-by-play DagobahAmerican Hero
The Force cast Ethereal Chains on all enemy Minions (10839)
The Force cast Ablative Shield on all friendly Minions (6279561)
X-Wing cast Steel Skin on all friendly Minions (2485)
Farmboy cast Antimagic Field on Fire Fighter Norm's familiar (0.53)
Farmboy cast Antimagic Field on Fire Fighter Norm (0.81)
Fire Fighter Norm cast Antimagic Field on Farmboy's familiar (0.00)
Fire Fighter Norm cast Ablative Shield on all friendly Minions (1255721)
Ranged Combat
Master Yoda's explosive shot hit Fire Fighter Norm's familiar [210288], Fire Fighter Norm [63093]
Master Yoda's explosive shot hit Fire Fighter Norm's familiar [230018], Fire Fighter Norm [69019]
X-Wing hit Fire Fighter Norm's familiar with wooden cane [452235]
X-Wing hit Fire Fighter Norm's familiar with wooden cane [343600]
 
Master Yoda's explosive shot hit Fire Fighter Norm's familiar [180945], Fire Fighter Norm [54284]
Master Yoda's explosive shot hit Fire Fighter Norm's familiar [199110], Fire Fighter Norm [59739]
X-Wing hit Fire Fighter Norm's familiar with wooden cane [293893]
X-Wing struck deep into Fire Fighter Norm's familiar with wooden cane [392494]
X-Wing cries "PEW PEW PEW!"
Fire Fighter Norm's familiar takes damage from his own Fireball (112622)!
Fire Fighter Norm's familiar's Fireball hit The Force [41418], Master Yoda [21036], X-Wing [26129], Farmboy [41492], Farmboy's familiar [46578]
Master Yoda absorbs damage [41418]
Master Yoda absorbs damage [26129]
Master Yoda absorbs damage [41492]
Master Yoda absorbs damage [46578]
Fire Fighter Norm takes damage from his own Magic Missile (52581)!
Fire Fighter Norm's Magic Missile hit Farmboy's familiar [24300]
Master Yoda absorbs damage [24300]
R.I.P. Fire Fighter Norm's familiar
 
Master Yoda's explosive shot hit Fire Fighter Norm [228087]
Master Yoda's explosive shot hit Fire Fighter Norm [169537]
X-Wing shot Fire Fighter Norm with wooden cane [414510]
X-Wing shot Fire Fighter Norm with wooden cane [325302]
Fire Fighter Norm takes damage from his own Magic Missile (56337)!
Fire Fighter Norm's Magic Missile hit Farmboy's familiar [21738]
Master Yoda absorbs damage [21738]
 
Master Yoda's explosive shot hit Fire Fighter Norm [232744]
Master Yoda's explosive shot hit Fire Fighter Norm [167277]
Master Yoda cries "Dead are you now!"
Fire Fighter Norm takes damage from his own Magic Missile (60093)!
Fire Fighter Norm's Magic Missile hit Farmboy's familiar [23181]
Master Yoda absorbs damage [23181]
R.I.P. Fire Fighter Norm
 

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] March 1 2010 9:41 PM EST

How the heck am I hitting the same number of times with a +300 exbow and 1.8m dex as I am with a +160 SoD and 800k dex?

The penalties to the exbow's CTH are crazy, missing is easy without enough dex. So a tank with a defense capability appropriate for it's pr should be able to effectively defend assuming they're a single minion or using an RoE, which lets face is it what every tank should be.

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] March 1 2010 9:43 PM EST

against other teams I hit for quads in round 2...

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- March 1 2010 9:46 PM EST

Ouch! I've been slowly DEing my exbows +, just seems like wasted CBD.

iBananco [Blue Army] March 1 2010 9:58 PM EST

So a tank with a defense capability appropriate for it's pr should be able to effectively defend assuming they're a single minion or using an RoE, which lets face is it what every tank should be.

Yeah. Hi. You hit me 1-2 times every fight.

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] March 1 2010 10:00 PM EST

Yeah, and if I didn't have a GIANT EF you'd likely win regardless of those hits.

QBJohnnywas March 2 2010 12:20 AM EST

There are a number of teams that I beat first time but never thereafter. It's been like that forever. The advantage of surprise I call it.

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] March 2 2010 12:28 AM EST

Anyone in particular Johnny?

QBJohnnywas March 2 2010 12:38 AM EST

AA's team, Little Anthony's, JS's Priestess, Dixie Cousins. There's always been a few. It's not always tank teams if that's what you're thinking, and it's also been regardless of what strat I was running at the time.

A lot of people are so scared of losing XP or CPs that they only ever fight their main fightlist. But I'm always going to standard list and seeing if there's anybody new I can beat. Other people would probably have noticed it by now.

QBJohnnywas March 2 2010 12:59 AM EST

The Travelling Man (F) (+) (Band of Wookies) The Immortals (The Knighthood) The Travelling Man 5 12:56 AM EST
The Travelling Man (F) (+) (Band of Wookies) The Immortals (The Knighthood) The Immortals 8 12:56 AM EST
The Travelling Man (F) (+) (Band of Wookies) The Immortals (The Knighthood) The Travelling Man 8 12:55 AM EST
The Travelling Man (F) (+) (Band of Wookies) The Immortals (The Knighthood) The Travelling Man 4 12:21 AM EST
The Travelling Man (F) (+) (Band of Wookies) The Immortals (The Knighthood) The Immortals 7 12:21 AM EST

That's from The Immortals' recent battles list. The one at 12:55 AM is a win on my part. There are no other battles going on at that time - that is I'm not being farmed, and neither is AA. The four battles either side are more typical, I lose first time, and get a double tap win. But there's nothing else influencing that winning battle.

AdminNightStrike March 2 2010 8:46 AM EST

The RNG can be cruel at times.

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] March 2 2010 11:01 AM EST

That's the thing Night, it's not completely random...

any chance of getting debug setup?

AdminNightStrike March 8 2010 7:52 AM EST

Possibly.. grab me in chat later tonight.
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