Frost
September 18 2008 1:15 AM EDT
Does anyone know about the "Secret War"? My pops was in it. Another lie the government feeds its people, and mine actually alot of my families are still there. My brothers and sisters are being genocide.
Frost
September 18 2008 1:20 AM EDT
heres some info just alittle though you can find more if you look it up
Secret War
Lochnivar
September 18 2008 1:34 AM EDT
links are great...
links that work are even better..
Frost
September 18 2008 1:55 AM EDT
dang sorry about that here try this http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/this_world/one_day_of_war/3604141.stm
N0seBLeeD
September 18 2008 2:01 AM EDT
Stop posting stupid threads. Like Ob said, all the conspiracy theories are a disgrace to the people who died on all those faithful days. Not to mention, they are just a publicity stunt.
Frost
September 18 2008 2:10 AM EDT
your a idiot NooseBleed my father fought in this war and you say its a disgrace? I really dislike you now.
N0seBLeeD
September 18 2008 2:15 AM EDT
Your other post was stupid. The government doesn't feed lies to people, people who believe that are just paranoid. Especially to the extent you are making it out to be.
A better link would be nice, it really doesn't give any info. If you want to inform us you're going to have to find something better.
I am actually sitting here quite confused.
lostling
September 18 2008 2:20 AM EDT
unfortunately conpiracies do happen.... however personally rather then try to make up my mind whether or not they are true i just cant be bothered with them lol...
and btw nosebleed this is off topic... and he is using the forum for what it is meant for.... so please stay off flaming him
Phaete
September 18 2008 2:25 AM EDT
What is this about, the link just tells me about someone's camping trip. What is the conspiracy here?
Frost
September 18 2008 2:40 AM EDT
its not a conspiracy its called "secret war" that started 2 years before the vietnam war and hasn't ended to this day. Here is another link but there is some graphic images.
http://www.rogerarnold.net/
Frost
September 18 2008 2:41 AM EDT
If anyone can find that BBC footage of One Day of War ill give them 3mil cbd
QBJohnnywas
September 18 2008 2:48 AM EDT
I can't find the film itself, but
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/this_world/one_day_of_war/default.stm
is a page about this stuff.
If you google "one day of war" there is plenty of sites about it. One of them might have a link to the film itself. I'd look a little more closely, but I've got to get ready for work!
Good luck!
Frost
September 18 2008 2:59 AM EDT
yea I've looked at that already no video of it there thanks though.
Frost
September 18 2008 3:12 AM EDT
Bananco found it for me if you want to see it too its
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJHerGolvR0
Frost
September 18 2008 3:16 AM EDT
thanks Jiraiya for that i sent you a present
Frost
September 18 2008 4:22 AM EDT
Sad now after seeing these clips there is more stuff in there also I would like everyone here in CB to take a look and watch these clips and the ones associated to them to get more aware of whats happening in Laos. BTW we cant go back to Laos to help cause they would just kill us. Also they Laos goverment lies about all of this and covers it up. They are blind just like the rest of the world someday though everyone will see whats happening to my people someday they will be free.
Xiaz on Hiatus
September 18 2008 5:28 AM EDT
The ironic thing is, to save your people, according to certain governments is to start a war to overthrow the existing government.
On a side note, all the wars in the Indochina region were costly for the civilians. Any war to defend people from communism or terrorism or whatever is sad, the innocent suffer incredibly, and cling to whatever they have left to survive. Those that manage to survive end up detached from they're homeland or building up from nothing in they're homeland.
I'm sad for your people, but be glad you've survived, because many were not as fortunate.
"Your other post was stupid. The government doesn't feed lies to people, people who believe that are just paranoid. Especially to the extent you are making it out to be. "
Actually they do, we call it politics. It's a fine American tradition dating back to the creation of the country. IT's less paranoia than the sad fact of governments. Misinformation has long been used to control the population. During world war two the propogandists were in full swing, even Disney made cartoons to spur the populace. Those who do not believe the government lies are naive.
But more on topic. The Hmong resistors were one of the many counter revolutionary forces funded by the CIA and the US government. Some others you might remember would be the Taliban and Sadaam Hussein.
Xiaz on Hiatus
September 18 2008 5:35 AM EDT
They tell you what you need to know, only when they think you need to know. :)
"Stop posting stupid threads."
if we had some kind of intelligence filter, methinks the forums would be quite bare! ; )
QBOddBird
September 18 2008 12:48 PM EDT
Politics are a fine _American_ tradition?
thank god for teh internets when college fails me :)
I don't see how this war is actively being secretized, at the very least by the governments of any countries in which any of us reside. I'm sure the current Laotian government doesn't want world powers to get involved with this, but they're the only ones trying to cover it up, as far as I see. The fact that the United States Military is not involved in the conflict isn't a denial of the conflict's existence by any means.
It seems, based on the fact that the BBC has done a special report or two on it, and that there are YouTube videos, that a fair number of people know what's up, and that the information's out there. It hasn't reached the notoriety of the Darfur conflict, but I hardly think there's any sort of "government cover-up" going on that keeps the major news networks from approaching the subject.
Saw the topic, instantly thought of the Beyonder and Marvel. ;)
Then thought how cool it would be to have a super powered Dad. ;)
Frost
September 18 2008 2:05 PM EDT
did you know about it? Ill bet you didnt. My father still hasnt been paid for the work he did as a "U.S. soldier", no recognition, all my uncles serverd and all but 2 died for the U.S. and nothing not even a pat on the back. How is that not a coverup? Did you know what a Hmong was before this thread? Its been over 35 years of Holocaust
why is this being ignored?
Cube
September 18 2008 2:39 PM EDT
Just because not everyone knows about it doesn't mean it's a cover up. Clearly the information on it is easy to access given the thread.
Of course, that doesn't make anything the United States has done to cause the conflict right. Unfortunately, lots of nations were messed up via the Cold War as well as Colonialism.
That said; thanks for the link/informing us.
Frost
September 18 2008 2:43 PM EDT
oh they use chemical agents too and Laos is part of the UN... geneva convention = no chemical warfar
Yes, there is a thriving Hmong community in the Twin Cities, for instance. It's not a secret, it's just not as interesting to most Americans as which blonde most recently forgot her panties.
As for pats on the back, is that why they served?
Goodfish
September 18 2008 10:28 PM EDT
Another blonde forgot her panties?!
/me pumps his fist in the air.
Goodfish
September 18 2008 10:30 PM EDT
Oh, and I am well aware of the plight of the Hmong community. I'm friends with three Hmong kids from back home. I speak a little bit but I couldn't write it for the life of me; the spelling has always been out of my league.
And Frost, no offense, but saying that your brothers and sisters are "being genocide" is a little off-base.
Unless of course they are your actual brothers and sisters, in which case, I suggest we relocate them.
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